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Old 06-06-14, 10:41 AM   #1
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that is, can we realistically keep the same system that we have now indefinitely given the current environmental issues we face?

http://www.theguardian.com/sustainab...ves-capitalism
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Old 06-06-14, 10:42 AM   #2
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from my perspective the train's going to keep on chugging until everyone dies
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Old 06-06-14, 10:42 AM   #3
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but everyone will die, so i guess that means no
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Old 06-06-14, 10:42 AM   #4
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Old 06-06-14, 10:47 AM   #5
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even if we disregard the environmental issues it isn't sustainable

it will literally burn everyone out except the rich, and then they will die too

there is a literally a city being built in Nigeria that the rich can run too when the waters rise

anyway, we need to move beyond capitalism, or at least this shitty crony capitalism (aka neoliberalism) we are suffering under

im not anti markets, but there is a time and place for governments to take control for the benefit of all
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Old 06-06-14, 10:48 AM   #6
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we moved from feudalism to capitalism, i cant quite remember but in Red Mars there is this great economy built around sharing, but it discusses how capitalism was an amalgamation of feudalism and something else, and then whatever next will be a mix between capitalism and feudalism

or something liek that, i cant remember

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capitalism is freedom and the driving force of a progressive mankind

its not my fault sometimes other humans fuck it up

name one other system that CAN BE so ingrained in our society [and all the wondrous toys it produces]whilst still provide some modicum of feedom and indeed, as evidenced by China, a system that actively promotes peace and prosperity on a global basis [albeit pax romana]

tl;dr best of a bunch sheel be right
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well china probably has it the most right, aside the from the ludicrous environmental recklessness
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in Red Mars there is this great economy built around sharing

ahaha is this the basis of the lefts research and development into alternative economies for mankind?

makes sense considering their output of shite
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the west has gone too far the other way
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in Red Mars there is this great economy built around sharing

ahaha is this the basis of the lefts research and development into alternative economies for mankind?

makes sense considering their output of shite
the basis?

you mean sharing?

we are moving toward a sharing economy if you didnt notice
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sausage: "well fuck you its the best we have why try for anything better?"
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the west has gone too far the other way

youre 100% shit

whats your reference point where are your parameters for such a sweeping statement

classic left bumper sticker beltway tripe

no detail

no feasible argument

thats why you are going to lose, every time
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öld man rants, will die before it matters
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youre 100% shit

whats your reference point where are your parameters for such a sweeping statement

classic left bumper sticker beltway tripe

no detail

no feasible argument

thats why you are going to lose, every time
mate ive never seen a valid argument from you once
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and there is plenty of evidence, noticably the well-documented rise in inequality and the cases of governments bailing out banks and other corporations
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in Red Mars there is this great economy built around sharing

ahaha is this the basis of the lefts research and development into alternative economies for mankind?

makes sense considering their output of shite
the basis?

you mean sharing?

we are moving toward a sharing economy if you didnt notice
youre 100% sshit yet again

where are your sources where is this happening

is this some sort of left wing hijacking of the word 'barter' for a new age of lesbianism?
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capital will continue to accumulate with those who already have it and the bottom 50% will have none of it (in both senses)
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because i can go into huntly and join bartercard at the local farming coop
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in Red Mars there is this great economy built around sharing

ahaha is this the basis of the lefts research and development into alternative economies for mankind?

makes sense considering their output of shite
the basis?

you mean sharing?

we are moving toward a sharing economy if you didnt notice
youre 100% sshit yet again

where are your sources where is this happening

is this some sort of left wing hijacking of the word 'barter' for a new age of lesbianism?
the dozens of start ups that promote sharing, like airbnb and the car sharing and the list goes on, fuck mate do you read the economist (or let alone any newspaper)?
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to put it more plainly i already have access to a separate barter economy but as it happens it is more aligned to farmers and well, im not a farmer but it seems to work just fine for them
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in Red Mars there is this great economy built around sharing

ahaha is this the basis of the lefts research and development into alternative economies for mankind?

makes sense considering their output of shite
the basis?

you mean sharing?

we are moving toward a sharing economy if you didnt notice
youre 100% sshit yet again

where are your sources where is this happening

is this some sort of left wing hijacking of the word 'barter' for a new age of lesbianism?
the dozens ......

zzzzz good bye
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name one other system that CAN BE so ingrained in our society [and all the wondrous toys it produces]whilst still provide some modicum of feedom and indeed, as evidenced by China, a system that actively promotes peace and prosperity on a global basis [albeit pax romana]
still waiting on an answer to this pretty easy question...
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makes sense considering their output of shite
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we are moving toward a sharing economy if you didnt notice
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hey grandpa you mind if i share your car for a week mate its for the common good
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nz has a huge sharing economy
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name one other system that CAN BE so ingrained in our society [and all the wondrous toys it produces]whilst still provide some modicum of feedom and indeed, as evidenced by China, a system that actively promotes peace and prosperity on a global basis [albeit pax romana]
still waiting on an answer to this pretty easy question...
question isn't "what's the alternative"
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question still stands it encompasses your point also
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The term "sharing economy" began to appear in the mid-2000s, as new business structures emerged inspired by enabling social technologies and an increasing sense of urgency around global population growth and resource depletion. One inspiration was the tragedy of the commons, which refers to the idea that when we all act solely in our self-interest, we deplete the shared resources we need for our own quality of life.
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yes, it is sustainable and i challenge anyone to suggest another system that comes even close to protecting the environment whie still progressing
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P2P marketplaces[edit]
In this model, individuals transact directly with other individuals on a two-sided marketplace platform maintained by a third party. In two-sided marketplaces, the development, maintenance and policies of the platform are maintained by the third party, which can be an organization, a business or a government. These are not strictly P2P systems in the technical sense as there is generally a central market platform that enables the transactions. Examples include Airbnb, JustShareIt, and Krrb.

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Main article: Crowdfunding
These models also use a two-sided marketplace to enable individuals to contribute funds to entrepreneurs, artists, civic programs and projects.[32] Examples include Kickstarter and Indiegogo.

Innovation marketplaces[edit]
These marketplaces enable individuals and professionals to share their intellectual capital to solve problems. Examples include Architecture for Humanity and Innocentive.

Government to business platforms[edit]
The movement at all levels of government – state, local and federal – to release open, machine-readable data sets is encouraging significant innovation around shared data.

Government to citizen platforms[edit]
Increasing demands from citizens for government transparency and collaboration are creating new democratic sharing models and structures. Some examples include the White House initiative on Open Government and the city of Oakland's Open Budget Project.
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pie in the sky bullshit

never going to work and/or happen


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well how about a system where governments looks after the common good (health, education, environment) with regulations, and let the corporations actuallly be free market

as opposed to the opposite
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you crazy left wing fucks cant even get a consnesus within your own rabble to force a global compromise of a political and societal level lmao what a fucking joke just die already you all failed at life why disturb it for others
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it is not sustainable and there will be a new system, i guarantee it
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sausage is literally the baby boomer who has had his lot and won't live long enough to care
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yes, it is sustainable and i challenge anyone to suggest another system that comes even close to protecting the environment whie still progressing
well how about a system where governments looks after the common good (health, education, environment) with regulations, and let the corporations actuallly be free market

as opposed to the opposite
what a load of shit

empty words, shallow gestures

meanwhile you sip your latte and post on your ipad


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